Working for logical immigation reform based on a stable population, a recognition of the finite nature of our natural resources and the adverse impact of continued growth on our quality of life, standard of living, national interest, character, language, sovereignty and the rule of law. Pushing back and countering the disloyal elements in American society and the anti-American rhetoric of the leftwing illegal alien lobbies. In a debate, when your opponents turn to name calling, it's a good sign you've already won.

Saturday, July 14, 2007

Secure Borders -- What Does it Take?

Admittedly multi-layer fences cannot do the job alone. They may slow down the traffic if the Border Patrol is beefed up and if it does the job it is being paid to do. Other border infrastructure such as roads and electronic and aerial surveillance will also help. The roads will enable the patrol to get there faster when a violation is detected by whatever other means are available.

We should utilize the National Guard, rotating them in and out for their two weeks of active duty. They should be fully trained and deputized to act as Border Patrol auxiliaries. The Minutemen might also be able to play a role in this regard but I would make sure that any of their members who have shown a propensity to violence are weeded out and that they also are well-trained on what they can and cannot do with regard to border violators.

Construction of detention facilities near the border is imperative so there are at hand many places to detain the border violators. Those apprehended should be put to work building those facilities and the other border infrastructure for the duration of their stay in this country. This is not slave labor. That is just hyperbole. This is a way of recouping the cost of apprehension and detention pending an immigration decision. OTMs should never be paroled because they simply disappear never to be seen again. Mexicans could be paroled back to Mexico with their families if they promise to return to complete their detention or until their case is decided. They must be admonished that any other return to the U.S. will cause them to classified as felons and be sentenced to two years of detention or jail. Of course, all must be photographed, fingerprinted and DNAed.

Employers may recruit the paroled border violators on the Mexico side of the border in facilities organized and funded by the Mexican government but only U.S. state employment offices will be authorized to examine the evidence presented by an employer to prove that he has advertised for American workers to no avail, having offered a fair wage by American standards and a hiring preference for citizens.

Interior workplace enforcement, involuntary deportations, and employer sanctions can also be viewed as essential parts of a comprehensive border security plan because they create disincentives to repeat offenders. Employers must be required to validate the immigration status of all employees, both existing and new, using an automated system devised by the federal government. Employers must be held accountable for the immigration status of their employees whether they were hired knowingly or unknowingly. Not knowing is not an acceptable excuse.

Cross border traffic of all kinds must be reduced. If you are a citizen of Mexico, you don’t work in the U.S. unless you have a tamper-proof ID issued on the basis of employer-produced evidence of need. If you are a citizen of the U.S., you are not allowed to commute from Mexico to work in the U.S.. You must live here if you want to work here. Mexican tractor trailers will be unhitched at the border and re-hitched to tractors belonging to American trucking companies. Repeal NAFTA.

No Mexican children are allowed to go to school in the U.S. if they live in Mexico. There can be no border security with the present volume of pedestrian and vehicular traffic. Schools, hospitals and other service organizations must be required to verify the immigration status of all individuals before any service can be provided. Children whose parents are legally employed in the U.S. must attend school. Employers must reimburse hospitals and emergency rooms for any costs not recovered from their employees or their families or, alternatively, must provide family health care coverage for all foreign employees.

This is what it takes to secure the borders. Comprehensive border security is not simple. It requires round the clock enforcement and severe penalties for those who fail to enforce the law including for the president of the U.S. Failure to enforce immigration laws must be an impeachable offense -- a high crime or misdemeanor.

3 comments:

mirrorism said...

From a Texan perspective: Most of the land along the Texas/Mexico border is PRIVATE property. The Minutemen were kicked out of Texas all the way to Canada by property owners in Texas. Cindy Sheehan was also kicked out by the property owners of Texas. She was forced to protest from the highway, remember?

Some of these property owners are ranchers; they have cattle that drink water from the Rio Grande. Those farmers do not want to give up that land for the military, or for the construction of a wall or detention centers. Like I said, they got tired of the Minutemen and all they were doing was borrowing it. And I wouldn't doubt that some of them are against illegal immigration.

What do you do about them?

"Those apprehended should be put to work building those facilities and the other border infrastructure for the duration of their stay in this country. This is not slave labor. That is just hyperbole. This is a way of recouping the cost of apprehension and detention pending an immigration decision."

One important thing to note is that, under the current law, it is very difficult to prosecute someone for being in this country illegally. I don't have a complete grasp of the specifics, but from what I understand, the only punishment the law permits is deportation. The only illegal immigrants eligible for major jail time, simply for being here illegally, are repeat offenders. This is why illegal immigrants are simply deported without facing jail time.

With that in mind...

Can you please direct me to a moment in time where prisoners have willingly worked for nothing?

Inmates in the US get something in return (prison money, favor in their next parole hearing, yard privileges, visitation privileges), but their participation is voluntary.

So, how can you legally force someone to work, if you can't even legally put them in jail?

"Employers may recruit the paroled border violators on the Mexico side of the border in facilities organized and funded by the Mexican government but only U.S. state employment offices will be authorized to examine the evidence presented by an employer to prove that he has advertised for American workers to no avail, having offered a fair wage by American standards and a hiring preference for citizens."

First of all, the unemployment rate in this country is so low that you can never fill the jobs illegal immigrants hold. And that's without discounting for the percentage of people in the US who cannot work or do not want to work or who are in between jobs.

So... What is the fair wage for a dishwasher/bus boy/cook? A gardener (not a golf course gardener, but the kind that only know how to operate yard maintaining equipment)? A nanny? And all the other low-skilled jobs illegal immigrants fill?

I am aware of the deplorable conditions some illegal immigrants work in and that some work for under the minimum wage, but most, work for reasonable wages in reasonable conditions. Fine, Americans should get a fairer wage and everything else, but how much more can it really be if, in the end, they will also be low-skilled workers? Either way, they're not going to be making enough to support a family in this country, they are going to need government support regardless.

"Repeal NAFTA."

Unlikley.

"Schools, hospitals and other service organizations must be required to verify the immigration status of all individuals before any service can be provided."

Hypothetical, a person arrives to the ER, unconscious and losing blood quickly, how do you verify their immigration status? You can't do it by looking at them, there are blonde haired and blue eyed people in Mexico, and there are black haired and brown eyed people in America.

With that in mind, how can YOU prove that you aren't an illegal? You can be an illegal from Canada or even from Mexico that has been living with a stolen identity. You can show me your birth certificate, ID, school photos, baby foot prints, but documents and pictures can be forged, and even finger prints can be faked. You really can't prove that you are really you without DNA testing.

You have obviously put a lot of thought into this, but most of it calls for dramatic changes in the Constitution, current laws (domestic and international), the thoughts of private property owners in the border states, State Governments and the Federal Governement, higher State and Federal taxes, even agreements between countries . Radical to say the least, no?



I would also like to add, repeat, that I am FOR border security, just against a wall for symbolic reasons. Not only will border security control the flow of immigration (which I don't believe is out of control or anything) but it will also control the flow of illegal drugs.

Even though the drug most smuggled from Mexico is Marijuana, which is home grown in the US in larger quantities, border security will basically eliminate the need for the drug cartel wars that are devestating some Mexican cities (along the border, especially) because the US market won't be as profitable as it is now.

ultima said...

Mirror say, "Being an American is a birth right, not something you earn with a high school education, as if that was something to be proud of! If that were the case more than 25% of America's population would have to get deported to some dunce corner of the world."

Someone posted on Dee's site all about the pledge of allegiance and all the other good stuff they learned and practiced in school. That is what I meant by a high school education. Even if they weren't born here, they may have an opportunity to become citizens or at least permanent residence. A high school diploma, whatever it means these days, might represent a factor in their favor since presumably they would have been exposed to civics, history, the pledge, etc. There might be some corner of the world or Mexico where even the dropouts would be considered well-educated.

ultima said...

"Terrible book!"

Have you read it?